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FULFORD: For me it was like a ghost from the history books appearing in front of me. They told me they had a membership worldwide of six million, including 1.8 million gangsters - all the Asian gangsters in the world - and 100,000 professional assassins.
Now, I wasn't sure whether or not to believe these people. I later flew to Taiwan and met the heads. We were surrounded by hundreds and hundreds of men in black suits who looked like gangsters. I was getting some martial arts displays.
I believe they are not lying when they say they have six million members, and a lot of them are gangsters.
RENSE: Now are they headquartered in Taiwan, or did they just pick that as a meeting place for you?
FULFORD: No. They are headquartered in Taiwan. It's a very secret organization. They don't really have a building where they say, "This is our headquarters."
RENSE: They've been there since Chiang Kai-Shek fled there in 1949, I guess, and before that.
FULFORD: They've infiltrated the Chinese government right up to the politburo level. They are all over China and all over the world. The Japanese Yakuza gangs are also a part of this. Many of them.
RENSE: The Yakuza?
FULFORD: Yes. Yakuza gangsters. There's about 150 thousand of them throughout Japan.
RENSE: Let's talk for a moment about their projection of power in the United States. There are a lot of Asians now, some Asian gangs. Certainly there are Chinatowns around the US. In every big city there is a Chinese community. Are they projecting power through those various locations and venues?
FULFORD: Absolutely. They are everywhere. Remember that 2/3rds of the members are scholars, not gangsters. These will be people working as researchers, for example, in government laboratories, or as university professors.
RENSE: Now we know, Ben, there are lots of Chinese over here in the United States. At the university level, certainly doing contract work for very important corporations. By the tens of thousands, they are over here. Now is this People's Liberation Army, or is this a secret society, or is it both?
FULFORD: These people are anti-Communist. You've got to get that clear. They are not part of the People's Republic of China.
RENSE: So the PLA has spies all over the place here, but the secret society is not part of that. They are completely opposed to it.
FULFORD: Yeah. They are a totally separate organization. But they do have membership, of course, in the Chinese secret police, et cetera. It's a weird mix.
If they do have one loyalty, the rules I was told were to protect the weak, fight against injustice, to help each other. There is nothing I would find morally objectionable in what they told me were their codes. It just reads like a book of morals.
RENSE: It sounds like good old-fashioned values. That would work here.
So you had this meeting in Taiwan. Where did that take place, and what was the meeting like? Who were the people you met with? I don't expect you to name them or show us pictures on the Internet, but what did these people say?
FULFORD: Well, it was a meeting upstairs in a small Chinese restaurant, in a small, nondescript room.
RENSE: Geez! It sounds like a Hollywood movie!
FULFORD: [Laughs] Yeah! And these guys looked like something out of a Hollywood movie. Some of them were missing like four fingers. One guy I met said he personally killed a hundred people. They were pretty scary, funky people, let me tell you that. Some of them.
Some of them had two Ph.D.'s, and were very sophisticated and charming.
RENSE: The core group you met with were numbered how many?
FULFORD: Well, there was a dozen, and then the real core... I don't know how much I should be able to disclose, but, you know, I mean, uh...
RENSE: Well, you don't have to go any further than you don't want to.
FULFORD: They explained to me - they understood the urgency, that there was a genocide plan, and they were manufacturing diseases.
RENSE: When I said you don't have to go any further than you don't want to, I imagine you don't have to go any further than you want to, of course. I misspoke there. The gist of this, the crux of this thing was their concern of an ethnic-specific bio-weapon, perhaps, or something along those lines, that would eradicate much of the Asian population base?
FULFORD: Yes. And SARS was artificially manufactured.
RENSE: SARS, of course, first popped up in Guangdong Province in China, I believe, where the Chinese maintain, the People's Liberation Army has one or two bio-weapons labs in Guangdong. Guangdong is also where H5N1 seemingly originated. That's one of the most lethal strains of it in the bird community worldwide.
So yeah, interesting. Go right ahead.
FULFORD: They don't like the idea of plans to wipe out... what the Japanese freemason told me, the one connected to Rockefeller, was the plan was to reduce Asia's population to 500 million. And Japan was ordered to reduce their population to 75 million.
RENSE: Ordered by?
FULFORD: By the Rockefellers and the Freemasons, and these interbred Illuminati. They tried to do it from birth control, which is ideal, but if not, then through disease or war - whatever is necessary.
RENSE: Okay. You mentioned SARS, and it broke out. Interestingly enough, I'm going to make a point here. I think it's very germane. You're an ex-Canadian. Now SARS took a big toll of people in Canada - healthcare workers in hospitals specifically. In one hospital I know they lost a lot of people.
At one point in the SARS - we won't call it an epidemic, but in the SARS outbreak here, they printed, in a major Canadian newspaper, pictures of all the fatalities of SARS in Canada. And there were about 50 to 100, Ben.
I looked at those pictures and I said to myself, "Uh-oh. SARS comes from China." I looked at these pictures, and all but 2 or 3 or 4 of the people - and let's just say there were 50 - were Asians! They were all Asians!
FULFORD: SARS affects people with only a certain genotype - and most of these people are Asian.
RENSE: All right. That ties in with the picture I saw.
FULFORD: Look at the Project for a New American Century, page 60, "Rebuilding America's Defenses." They are saying bio-weapons that can target specific genotypes can be used for political tools.
RENSE: Well, they've had that capability for 20-25 years, at least. They can target blue eyes, green eyes, blonde hair, brown hair, height, weight. Certainly anything to do with race or genetics can be programmed into bio-weapons. That's not a surprise.
The SARS thing was, in your opinion, what? Something introduced by the West to let the Chinese know that they are going to get...
FULFORD: They were going to attempt to cull the Chinese population.
RENSE: So that was a full-blown attempt to massively infect China with some kind of a pandemic that would wipe out a great deal of the people there? That wasn't just an experiment or a calling card or a wake-up call?
FULFORD: No. I believe it was a sincere attempt to kill them. And of course, people don't like being killed, which is why this society re-activated itself after being dormant for so many years. It's like an emergency fire brigade. Normally people just go about their lives and do their jobs - they don't do anything illegal. But if there is a crisis, they all band together.
An interesting thing, as a digression. When Sun Yat-Sen took over, he found the Imperial Treasure - a horde of treasure built up by the Chinese emperors over the millennia. When the Communists took over, some of this treasure was shipped off to the National Palace Museum in Taiwan, but some of it was hidden in a mountain in China.
The Communists tortured three thousand people to try to find out where it was, and nobody spoke. This is their emergency war chest, which they will dig up and spend if they feel...
RENSE: You mean the secret society.
FULFORD: Yes.
RENSE: Okay. So the Chinese communists could not find half of the treasure. Half went to Taiwan, half remained on the mainland. This is the secret society's bankroll?
FULFORD: Yes. It's their emergency fund for rainy days.
RENSE: It must be a pretty handsome fund for rainy days.
FULFORD: Yes. It's [worth] billions of dollars.
RENSE: Yeah, I would think. Stand by, if you would, Ben. We have to take a break here and will be back momentarily. We'll come right back and continue our wide-ranging conversation. It's quite focused, really, when you look at the totality of it.
Again, SARS, when you look at Ben Fulford and his Chinese / Asian contact, was an attack. He believes it was a full-blown attack to unleash a bio-specific agent in China, a virus, to wipe out most Chinese.
That might account for some of the exclamations of the Chinese general staff, the second in command of the military, who has said twice now that China is preparing to wage and to win a nuclear war with the United States. Now maybe he was talking about the Rockefeller interests in the United States. I don't know.
This is an interesting conversation, to put it mildly. Benjamin Fulford is my guest. We'll be right back with hour number two of our conversation in a few minutes.
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-HOUR TWO-
RENSE: Okay, back with Benjamin Fulford, the former Asian-Pacific bureau chief for Forbes Magazine for eight years. He's got quite a CV. You can see it on his website by clicking on his name at <http://rense.com/>Rense.com.
We're talking about the Asian / Chinese secret society, which has tentacles all over the world. It is more than concerned about the plans, and apparently one failed attempt, to massively reduce the Chinese population, enroute to an overall world population reduction of some 80 percent. At least that's our understanding of the plans of a faction of the world elite, the Illuminati, the controllers, and so forth.
Again, a very fascinating conversation. In the Featured Story section of <http://rense.com/>Rense.com, Dr. Henry Makow's article, "Chinese Secret Society Challenges Illuminati," all about Ben Fulford. Ben's article underneath it, "The Secret History of the Freemasons in Japan," is a very interesting history lesson in and of itself.
Okay, Ben. You had your meeting in Taiwan. You met upstairs in a rather plain, nondescript room in a Chinese restaurant. You met with these guys. They are well-dressed guys at this point, would you say?
FULFORD: Some of them were obviously billionaires, and some were senior government figures. Some of them...
RENSE: How could you think they were obviously billionaires, Ben? What was it about them that made you feel that?
FULFORD: Well, the list of companies they owned...
RENSE: Did they present their own CV to you to prove their pedigree?
FULFORD: [With] some of them, you can see their faces in the newspaper all the time.
RENSE: I see. Okay. With your knowledge, you knew who some of them were.
FULFORD: Yeah.
RENSE: And again, some of them, Ben Fulford would never have guessed. These are professional people, they're not bums. Here they are, saying "Ben, we trust you not to talk about this too much. And what we're trying to do is..."
What did they say they were trying to accomplish?
FULFORD: They want to stop these people, obviously.
RENSE: Who are 'these people'? The Rockefeller, Rothschild, Freemasons and Illuminati?
FULFORD: The Rockefellers, the Illuminati families.
RENSE: Would you call them anti-Asian? Westerners? What would you call them?
FULFORD: They are racists, but they are more than that. They want to enslave humanity.
RENSE: Okay. And the fewer the number left around, the easier it is to enslave them. So they want a skeleton crew, so to speak, left in China to run things.
FULFORD: They like the Chinese. They want to keep some Chinese around because they make good stuff cheap, no?
RENSE: Yeah, just like they want to keep some Africans around in sub-Saharan Africa to work the plantation.
FULFORD: Right. That sort of thinking. Their plan, as I was told by the Japanese Illuminati, was to weaken China through disease, and also starvation. They are trying to engineer a global food shortage by creating viruses that affect our major food crops.
Then they want to provoke a war by getting Taiwan to declare independence. Their hope, by that time, is to have the Japanese army as a subdivision of the US army, ready to pounce on China and divide it into six countries. This was the plan told to me by very senior Japanese people.
RENSE: When was this plan cooped [laughs] - kooky plan, but when was it cooked up?
FULFORD: Quite a long time ago. These people think in terms of decades or even longer.
RENSE: The Japanese army is not able to go in and subjugate China. This is...
FULFORD: The Japanese army is one of the biggest armies in the world. It's huge. It would be working with the US Army and the Navy.
RENSE: How big is the Japanese army? How many standing men in uniform?
FULFORD: It's an 'instant ramen' army. What they have is lots and lots of officers and lots and lots of weapons. They have the third biggest military budget in the world. What they can do at any time is grab three million office workers off the street and turn them into soldiers.
RENSE: Wow.
FULFORD: That's quite huge, and very up to date.
RENSE: So this plan of subjugating China with this army, and other factors like what's left of our army and military - is it a plan that is still cohesive, militarily?
FULFORD: Not really. The Japanese are still going according to the original plan, but that blew up in Iraq, didn't it?
RENSE: It sure did!
FULFORD: The plan was to grab all the oil in the Middle East, and then go and get China. But they couldn't quite get their Middle Eastern part done. That's why, a very important thing to understand is that because the Rothschild faction split with the Rockefellers, that's when we had this "Freedom Fries" business and all this anti-French stuff.
They are not getting enough financing to maintain a big army there. That's why there are 150,000 troops. The only money they're getting now is from Japan. The Europeans aren't willing to finance this adventure in Iraq anymore.
So there has been a very major schism here between the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers. That's part of the reason why they can't afford to run the Iraq thing properly.
RENSE: Now the [Chinese] secret society, pointing to SARS as an attempt. That's what galvanized them.
I guess we come to the next obvious question. Why, then, Fulford?
FULFORD: I wrote about this in a book in Japanese, which alerted them. Then they did their own research and confirmed that it was true.
RENSE: You wrote about the population reduction plans?
FULFORD: Yeah, and SARS and stuff, and how it only affected mainly Asians. Also an interesting little misquote can be found in the Congressional record, from July 13, 2005. You have a bio-weapons expert saying the weaponization of bird flu is taking place across Asia. In the Congressional record, they tried to erase it. I've got multiple copies stacked here and there.
RENSE: We do know that on April Fool's Day, April 1st of 2005, the resident of the White House, George Bush, signed an executive order which gave the federal government - i.e. George Bush and anybody he designates - full power of quarantine over any and all Americans, towns, cities, counties, states, which have been exposed to H5N1, Avian influenza, or any other exotic, infectious micro-organism. They're not taking any chances.
So somebody knows something somewhere. We've been tracking this - you don't know this - on my program for some three years now, with Dr. Henry Al-Nyman (ph), Ph.D., who is a brilliant micro-biologist and geneticist. He has been following this genetically from the beginning, forecasting what it would do, and how it is learning more and more about how to survive and thrive in mammals, which it is very close to doing now. It's changing all the time, and getting closer and closer to true pandemic status.
Now if there is an Asian genetic factor to this, I'm not aware of it, but we do know that Indonesia is rampant with H5N1, and Vietnam, Cambodia, and Taiwan have had a lot of trouble with it. So that's a fact.
FULFORD: It's also a fact that the Asians are a little over sharing the bird flu data with the Americans. [They say,] "Why should we give you stuff that will allow you to create a vaccine to protect your own people while we die?"
RENSE: That makes sense. We wondered why the genomes were being withheld, why the samples were being withheld.
FULFORD: The Chinese haven't been giving them for years now. They said, "The hell with that. We're not going to protect your own people while you try to kill us."
RENSE: Okay. Back to the meeting in Taiwan.
FULFORD: They decided that these people need to be overthrown.
RENSE: The Rothschilds, the Illuminati, the Rockefellers.
FULFORD: Yeah. The Illuminati. And specifically, if I have to, I will ally myself with the Rothschilds against the Rockefellers, if it comes to it. I'd rather get them both out of power, but the Rothschilds are a much mellower bunch at this point. They're [promoting] the global warming thing. It's stupid, but...
RENSE: I wouldn't agree with you, but I would suggest that what they're doing in Europe with Bush's so-called defensive missiles, threatening and pushing and provoking Russia, is not particularly sanguine; it's pretty damn dangerous.
The Russians today announced they are going to deploy their new Iskander (ph). It's a new medium-range cruise missile, in Western Russia, to oppose the so-called Bush 'defensive' missiles, which of course are being placed there, or will be placed there, to knock down the Topol-M, which has also just been advanced dramatically.
The Topol-M was a single-bang warhead. Now it's a MERV'ed warhead, and it has had two successful test firings. So the Topol-M is now MERV'ed, meaning it has ten independently targeted thermonuclear warheads in each rocket.
Now the Topol has a triple-speed boost phase, which makes it very hard to knock down. These interceptor rockets that Bush wants to put in Europe are specifically designed to try to stop the Topol-M in its boost phase. That's another story.
Go ahead, please.
FULFORD: What it means is we've now got the Russians and the Chinese. I've now been contacted by the Japanese secret government, and it looks like they're also going to turn against the Rockefellers.
RENSE: Now the Rockefellers have the Japanese by the shorthairs, or at least they have so far.
FULFORD: Yeah. They have so far. The thing is, the Japanese want to keep friendly relations with the United States. They really do like that US-Japan relationship and they don't want to damage that. But if they can preserve that relationship and get rid of the Rockefellers, that would be very happy for them - very happy indeed.
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RENSE: So is this suggesting some kind of cooperation between the Chinese secret society and the Japanese government, which wants liberation from the yoke of the Rothschilds?
FULFORD: Absolutely! Absolutely. They are cooperating. They are going to be given an ultimatum soon. We're just waiting for all our ducks to be in a row.
RENSE: All right, stand by. Hold on right there, Ben. We'll come back and talk more about this.
Okay. Wow. Quite a fortune cookie. We'll be right back in just a few minutes with Benjamin Fulford.
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RENSE: Okay. And back with Ben Fulford. Hi, Ben. You want to carry on right where we were?
FULFORD: Yes. They are going to be given an ultimatum.
When these people first contacted me, once I knew they were for real, the first thing I thought was, "We'll play 9/11 movies in Chinatowns around the world." But then I thought, "Wait a minute. These guys are really bad people." I thought about it.
I realized the Illuminati and all their servants are about 10,000 people. Everyone below them - if they knew what the 10,000 were doing, they would be furious, and rip them out of their houses and hang them from the nearest lampposts. Right?
RENSE: Mm hm.
FULFORD: The Chinese [secret society has] six million. So that's 600 to 1 odds. More specifically, there are ten professional assassins for each member of the Illuminati. So basically it's checkmate for them.
The question is how to bring this out to the public and make this a formal thing.
However, killing people is something I don't like - and neither do they. So the first order of business is to try to talk, before things get radical.
The point is, there is the technical ability to wipe them all out in a matter of hours. They would all be assassinated.
But instead, I think, they're going to be offered an opportunity. I don't think - I know. They are going to be offered an opportunity to surrender.
RENSE: Will you be playing a role in making such an offer?
FULFORD: Absolutely. I am their spokesman. My job is to represent them in the Western world.
I know what I am allowed to say and what I am not allowed to say.
The point is this. We would start by killing David Rockefeller, and then work our way down the list until they agree to our terms.
RENSE: You speak, I want to make this clear. Ben Fulford is speaking hypothetically here.
FULFORD: Hypothetically. What I'm saying is that if they do not surrender...
RENSE: ...or comply, or become acquiescent...
FULFORD: Yes. Then we have to protect ourselves from genocide. And the way to do that, with the minimum possible death, is we start at the top of the Eye and work our way down until they agree.
RENSE: So the idea would be five or ten thousand is a lot better than a billion.
FULFORD: Zero is a lot better than five or ten thousand!
RENSE: And that was my next statement. Yes. I understand that.
FULFORD: My job is to try to make sure that not a single person dies. That is the ideal. The commissions that are going to be offered - and I know David Rockefeller is going to be listening to this, so you'd better listen, David Rockefeller:
1. They are going to be allowed to keep their palaces and their servants. They will be given an amnesty, but they must appear before a truth commission.
2. And they must promise - them and their clan - to never, ever try again to enslave the human race.
3. And third, they must spend the rest of their lives doing good deeds.
Those are the conditions. I think they're very good ones, and it's the best they have available. They'd better hurry before the American people drag them out of their houses and hang them from the nearest lampposts, which I think is about to happen anyway.
RENSE: Do those conditions apply to the Rothschilds as well?
FULFORD: Yeah, I mean, maybe the Rothschilds can work themselves their own deal. I'm in contact with a Rothschild representative, and maybe we can come up with something else. The main point is to stop the genocide. That is the number one goal.
RENSE: What would you term what the Americans are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan? We have seen the slaughter of over...
FULFORD: Well, they're irradiating it with nuclear dust!
RENSE: We are turning it into nuclear dust, we have killed already close to one million Iraqis since the Iraq war began over four years ago. The threat now to invade Iran, a country of 70 to 80 million people, is quite clearly on the front burner again. So this is genocide.
FULFORD: Yes.
RENSE: And this is not being orchestrated entirely by the Rockefellers, although I do see the connection to what you're saying. Now we want to quickly jump over to... go ahead.
FULFORD: The Rockefellers are just one... I don't want to put everything on that one name. You've got to remember that you have the JP Morgan descendants.
What people in America need to do is get an old Who's Who. Look up the names of the bankers, the six or seven families who took over the Fed in 1913. Get the Who's Who and look up all their descendants. And then capture all the males. The United States would wake up.
It would be like the movie "The Island," where everyone suddenly wakes up and realizes they're being subjected to Freudian / Pavlovian mind control. It would be a miracle. It would be freedom!
That's what you have to do to save America. Those are the people you need to make as your priority targets if you want to save the United States and stop this genocide. The court jesters are the Neocons, too, who are the servants of these people.
RENSE: Well, the Neocons are essentially servants of the Zionist / Jewish / Rothschild cartel that is pushing the Middle East agenda, as much as we can tell.
Now the oil issue, of course, appears to cross over to both sides. It appears that Zionism is taking on Russia now, and pushing very hard in that respect. The Rockefellers are hard at work in Iran, covertly, and Iraq of course overtly, and Afghanistan. That's a simplistic overview.
FULFORD: They need oil to control the world.
RENSE: The Chinese need oil to continue to develop and progress, as do the Japanese.
FULFORD: You know what? Actually they figured out that maybe they don't need oil. They have these huge plants that are converting coal to oil now. To be honest, the Japanese had the technology to make fuel from water 30 years ago.
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RENSE: I think several people have, if you simply spend an hour on the Internet and look up taking hydrogen from water and actually making it burn. There is a lot of potential out there, which the petroleum companies are not too fond of.
FULFORD: Yeah. Actually let me tell you a personal story...
RENSE: Hold on, let's do that in just a minute, Ben, please. We have to pause. We'll do the personal story next, with Benjamin Fulford, who has just laid out some pretty interesting conditions for an alleged offer that perhaps the Illuminati can't afford to refuse. We will see.
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RENSE: Okay. Back with you. Benjamin Fulford, live from Tokyo, is with us. Pretty stunning material. All right, Ben, you had a personal story you wanted to share. Go ahead.
FULFORD: My great grandfather was G.T. Fulford. He was one of the richest men in the world - George Taylor Fulford. You can find him on Wikipedia. He was one of the richest men on Earth, and he was the largest single shareholder in General Electric.
He was going to finance Nikola Tesla, but he was murdered by the Rockefellers in 1905. It was made to look like a car accident.
RENSE: Your grandfather.
FULFORD: Great grandfather.
RENSE: Great grandfather. So really! Wow.
FULFORD: And the family fortune was stolen. My grandfather was only three years old at the time. The family fortune was taken over by the Rockefellers. My grandfather didn't know how to suspend his assets.
I am telling the Rockefellers right now, they can think of me as the ghost of G.T. Fulford, come back over a century - from four generations - to get justice.
RENSE: You speak in a very brave and cavalier way.
FULFORD: I've got good people behind me!
RENSE: And as I was going to say, you speak as if you are a man with great self-assurance, and you have a lot of friends.
FULFORD: Absolutely. You have 100,000 assassins backing you up, you don't have to be a chicken!
RENSE: Well, you don't sound like a chicken.
FULFORD: No. I'm going to get these people if no one else does. If they don't agree to my terms, they are doomed. And they know it. They have the intelligence agents.
You people out there, you don't know because you don't have access. You don't know if I'm lying, if I'm a crazy guy, but they do. People in the CIA, the NSA, Mossad, they know I'm not kidding. This society is real. And they are moving.
So they realize this is not a bluff. This a promise. They must stop their crazy games.
What these people are trying to do - I know it sounds insane. They are trying to artificially create Armageddon. They are trying to make people believe these are end times, by slaughtering people through disease and famine.
I believe they even have, I know this will sound a bit crazy and you will start wondering about me, but they have some kind of microwave weapon that can heat up underground water near earthquake-prone zones, and trigger earthquakes.
RENSE: Oh, I believe it. If that particular technology is true, it's probably one of two or three. They can do it with harmonic resonance, with sonic-based weapons and devices. There are a lot of ways, apparently, to get earthquake faults to move.
FULFORD: So what I'm getting, the feeling is these people are trying to artificially create the appearance of end times, just like in the Bible, and fool everybody.
RENSE: They seem to be playing to that script.
FULFORD: And you must not be fooled, because this has nothing to do with anything spiritual or otherworldly. This is right here on this earth.
And the cults these people represent, they have been known by folklore over the years. You have to start with Nimrod, the Babylonian tyrant. Then Hammurabi.
Hammurabi is known to the Jews as Abraham - a Babylonian tyrant. A slave driver. These people have had a secret sect of slave drivers that is almost six thousand years old.
They have very, very sophisticated methods. They use secrecy, murder, bribery and ridicule as their main weapons. They have had a very good run, but this is checkmate for them, as far as I am concerned.
They are not going to get away with this. They'd better realize it. It's game up. They've been exposed. People know about them. They are onto their game. And it's not going to work.
All you've got to do is target the Eye. Hollywood - the people in Hollywood have been trying to warn the Americans for years! If you look at Tolkien's movie, you have this Eye on the top of a mountain. Destroy the Eye and save the world.
Or [destroy] the masters. Stanley Kubrick gave up his life to expose these people.
So you've got to remember this isn't [associated with] the Jews. The Jews are your best friends in fighting these people, because they've been their biggest victims over the years.
RENSE: Well, we're talking about Zionists here, not Jews.
FULFORD: Exactly. I'm talking about a specific - well, yeah, you can call them Zionists. I think at a higher level it is a very secretive sect of people who are pretending they are Gods.
RENSE: What happened to Stanley Kubrick? I don't mean the precise cause of death, but where was he going that got him into trouble with these people?
FULFORD: It was the movie Eyes Wide Shut, exposing the Masonic orgies. They showed that there were people being killed. This is probably based on real events.
I haven't done the proper research, but there is an old man who dies in Eyes Wide Shut. If I'm not mistaken, the man in the movie died exactly the way Stanley Kubrick died in real life, just as he finished the movie.
RENSE: It is also suggested that Kubrick was involved in creating the - at least some hoaxed Apollo moon footage, and knew all about that. His wife has intimated as much since his death.
FULFORD: In 1938, on April Fool's Day, they had the War of the Worlds on radio, with Orson Welles. All sorts of people believed it. So, they said "Ha! This is a tool we can use. People will believe anything if it's on the media."
RENSE: Well, I think the media, then, with the work of Edward L. Bernays, began its ascendancy. It has become the most powerful tool of human oppression, social engineering, programming and mind control that has ever been on the planet.
FULFORD: One of the most important instances of mind control is association. What they do, for example, with this holocaust stuff, is they show you something so horrible that everybody is disgusted. Killing innocent women and children in gas chambers, turning people into soap, it's just so awful that you hate it. Anyone would.
RENSE: Of course, the soap issue has been completely discounted, by the way.
FULFORD: That's not the point. The point is they fill you with this horrible story. Then they associate everything they don't want you to think about with that.
So before I woke up to what was happening to me - if somebody tells me about a secret cartel of financiers who control the world's central banks, I would have instantly said, "Oh, yeah, that's that anti-Semitic thing. Oh, you're a Neo-Nazi. You want to kill people. Oh my God, you're horrible. I can't talk to you."
And then the conversation shuts down. That's how they do it! That's the kind of mind-wash or brain control [they use] through association.
RENSE: The Illuminati controllers have been bleeding the world's populace for a long time. They are real good at it. What is it about your message that you think their ego will back down enough to take seriously? You laid the numbers out there. Is it going to take some kind of an example?
FULFORD: I hope not. I really do. Even if you lose one assassin, this guy has got a family. He's got people who love him. He's going to be a suicide mission for sure.
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We'd rather not have to do that. And then his family has to be supportive. It's not a nice thing to kill people.
RENSE: No, it isn't.
FULFORD: It's really a last resort.
RENSE: All right. Stand by, Ben. We'll take a break and come right back with Benjamin Fulford. Again, the Asia-Pacific bureau chief for Forbes magazine, for eight years. Take a look on his website, click on his article at <http://rense.com/>Rense.com.
It's a remarkable conversation. If it is true, of course it changes the balance of power dynamics on this planet. Incredible. Time will tell. We'll be right back.
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RENSE: Okay, we're back. There are, of course, an awful lot of people around the world listening right now who will continue to read Henry Makow, Ph.D.'s story about Ben Fulford.
We'll have more from Ben at <http://rense.com/>Rense.com. And they are probably cheering for this, or certainly entertaining this concept, this program, with a great deal of guarded optimism, shall we say. It would be nice to see that the status quo, which is quite clearly hell-bent on creating an Armageddon, could be stopped somehow.
Okay, Ben. A lot of things to touch on. You want to do any follow up on anything in particular?
FULFORD: One thing, getting back to G.T. The 20th century was supposed to be a century of wonder. Unlimited free electricity.
RENSE: Tesla, of course, was the man who had that, and offered it to us, but it was not allowed to be accepted.
FULFORD: That's right. That's part of why they killed my great grandfather - he was going to finance Tesla. So they turned it into a century of horror. They need war and they need fear to control people.
If things get too peaceful, then they cannot keep things under control.
What has happened - and this is important, this is the big rift, the [Rothschild] Global Warming / [Rockefeller] War on Terror thing.
The radical faction, who wants to go ahead with Armageddon, are the War on Terror people. They're all a lie, basically. Another faction [is saying], "Okay, look. The plan to create a world government, with Jerusalem as its capital, is just not going to work right now. It's much easier to make the EU a central world government."
The thing you must understand about communism, the EU and even capitalism, as it is now practiced in the United States - they are all forms of disguising true central control. In other words, it's all different forms of Babylonian tyranny.
We can see through that to the essence. And the essence is to look at where the money is coming from. Finance.
I was a financial journalist for 20 years, and it took me a long time to figure out that finance is just propaganda. What finance really means is the human process of deciding what to do in the future. It's the idea of "How do we navigate into the future?" And that has been stolen from us by these people. That's why they need to control the central banks.
RENSE: Well, they want us to feel helpless, of course.
FULFORD: People work for money, and they control the money. That's how they control the society. People who say the wrong things get fired, or killed, or marginalized. Or, invited in. That's how they control. It's through money.
If Jesus Christ were alive today - when Jesus was alive, he went to the temple and he overturned the money changers' temple. If he were alive today he'd go to the Fed and he'd unplug the mainframe. That's what he would do.
RENSE: Unplug the mainframe. Liberate the planet.
FULFORD: Absolutely. They say, "All right, enough of this, we're going to figure out a new way."
RENSE: Well, if something doesn't happen soon, we're all going to hell in a handbasket. It looks pretty grim, as you well know.
FULFORD: The United States is in a particularly grim situation, but fortunately the rest of the world is much freer, and we're going to help the United States.
RENSE: I've heard that. We are the black hole of the planet in some respects, I guess.
FULFORD: Think about it. The endgame. These people are desperate. Cheney, Bush, they have 18 months left. The whole country has turned against them. Even the puppets in Congress. People are onto the fact that they were put in there by people with money, not by people with votes.
RENSE: They completely turned into something else when they showed up in Washington DC. Their constituents no longer matter. The betrayal factor here is off the scale! It's unbelievable. The treasonous behavior of Congress, the traitorous actions of those at the highest levels of government is almost unimaginable.
FULFORD: We have to remember - these people are scared. They are being threatened with murder at the highest levels - people like Edward Kennedy. These people, they killed General Patton, they killed the Kennedys, they killed Martin Luther King. They murder.
Most decent people who want to go into politics think about making people's lives better. They don't know how to deal with a gang of murderers - especially a very old, sophisticated group of gangsters.
RENSE: That's a very good point. It's gangsters. That's what's running the show. You're right.
FULFORD: And that's why you need gangsters to fight gangsters. This is where these Asian people come in. They know how to do a gang war. The first phase, which is what I have initiated right now, is the shouting match. We say, "Look. You'd better listen." And if they don't listen, then we go to the next phase.
RENSE: What's the timetable on this, Ben?
FULFORD: I cannot discuss that. You can't let people know what you're going to do. But I will tell you something interesting.
There is a force of three thousand ninja assassins. Now these ninjas are a two thousand year old cult - a school of martial arts. One of their specialties is sneaking into fortified compounds and murdering important people. The thing about these ninjas is they are white people - they are not Asians - and they are working for the US Special Forces.
They were trained by the Japanese. They understand the true state of power in the US, and they are willing to act when the time comes.
So I hope you're listening out there, Mr. Cheney and Mr. Rockefeller. We have someone close to each of you. You can be turned into dead meat in a matter of hours. I am not bluffing.
And I am hoping it doesn't come to that. I am a decent human being. I am a journalist. I do not want any death. Not one.
But if it comes to it, they will all be slaughtered. They will be hunted down like beasts. Every one of them will be killed. Until they agree to the terms I mentioned before.
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