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What is wrong with this world? Why all those civil wars, why all this chaos and disaster? Why can't people just live together in peace? When conflicts arise, why is it so hard for the United Nations and other parties to stop the killing, despite peace negotiators and ambassadors?

Benjamin Fulford: The Target is the illuminati´s Eye
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Is it that man is basically evil? Is it just human behavior? Lots of questions. When we look around, it may seem like man is basically evil, but that is not true. There is good and evil within us all; it needs to be there for our basic survival.
However, the society will eventually reflect the minds of their leaders, and if the leaders are implementing evil, the society will be evil as well, and people affected by a malevolent government will start acting like them. However, WE are the ones who appoint and accept our leaders, so ultimately the responsibility is yours and mine.
All this chaos, genocide, ethnic cleansing and the overall disasters have a genuine purpose. It is all very carefully planned by a few men behind the scenes, high up in the society, above any power structure that the ordinary citizen knows about. It is a planned take-over to create a One World Government with those people on top, making the rest of us into their slaves in a Super Socialist State!
Does this sound incredible and unbelievable? If this is totally new to you, I can truly understand that it sounds that way; especially if you as a habit have been relying on mainstream media for your information. However, if you want to know the real truth, I recommend you to continue reading my web site, www.chza.de (most german and some parts in english) and I am sure this body of information will blow your mind. On a gradient scale, you will start getting the full picture. You will become very aware of what is happening in the world and why.

NEW WORLD ORDER ORGANISATION - Target is the illuminati´s Eye
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Henry Makow | June 29, 2007
(Benjamin Fulford interviewed by Jeff Rense 7/05/2007
A Chinese secret society with 6 million members, including 1.8 million Asian gangsters and 100,000 professional assassins, have targeted Illuminati members if they proceed with world depopulation plans, according to Tokyo-based journalist Benjamin Fulford, 46. They contacted Fulford, a Canadian expat, after he warned that the Illuminati plan to reduce the Asian population to just 500 million by means of race-specific biological weapons.
“The Illuminati, with the exception of Japan, is very much a white man’s game,” Fulford says.
The secret society confirmed Fulford’s information and asked for advice. He provided them with a list of 10,000 people associated with the Illuminati, mainly members of the Bilderberg, CFR and Skull and Bones. Neo Cons are also high priority targets. “I have promised that not a single person will die if they negotiate in good faith,” Fulford says. Fulford is the former Asian Pacific bureau chief for Forbes magazine. He quit in disgust when Forbes refused to run a damaging story about one of its advertisers. Fulford has since written 15 books in Japanese. His most recent is a scathing dissection of the 9-11 Hoax.
Fulford says Japan has been controlled in secret by the Illuminati through the use of murder and bribery. Underground sources tell him the Americans have murdered over 200 Japanese politicians and influential citizens since the end of WW2.
Among the victims are former Prime Ministers Tanaka, Takeshita, Ohira and Obuchi. They were all murdered using a special drug that induces strokes. The Illuminati have been warned that the Chinese secret society will not tolerate any more murders. It has also extended its protection to truth seekers in the West.
AN ANCIENT SOCIETY
The Chinese Secret Society is called the “The Green and the Red Societies,” Fulford says. It “can be found in the history books. When the Manchus invaded China in 1644, the Ming army became an underground society aimed at overthrowing the Qing (Manchu) and restoring the Ming. They supported the Boxer Rebellion but were put down by imperialist powers. Later, with the help of overseas Chinese and the Japanese imperial family, the society managed to overthrow the last Emperor and install Sun Yat Sen in his place. They last appear in the history books as the Green Gang and the Red Gang that fiercely fought the Communists in Shanghai in the 1940s. They were defeated by the Communists in 1949 and once again became an underground organization.”
“Since 1949 they have steadily increased their influence throughout China and the rest of the world. They have members at the very highest levels of the Chinese government but they are by nature anti-establishment, and are not an official Chinese government organization…
“The society has deep roots in Japan because of the link between Yakuza crime gangs and the Japanese imperial family. The Japanese imperial family are descended from 6th century Korean invaders. The original invaders had trouble putting down the native Jomon peoples so they brought over a tough, warlike minority people from the Asian mainland. These are the ancestors of the Yakuza. They have historically been used for secret work and for jobs like collecting taxes. When the Japanese decided to help overthrow the last Chinese dynasty, they used the Yakuza as a go-between with the Chinese secret society, many of whose members were gangsters. To this day many of the senior leaders of this group are actually Japanese, not Chinese.”
“It must be made very clear though that it is not a crime gang. Although many members are Triad and Yakuza members, over 2/3 thirds of the members are intellectuals such as university professors, researchers and government bureaucrats. Each member earns their own living and membership in the society is like belonging to an emergency fire brigade. Their book of rules reads like a book of ethics filled with instructions to do things like help the weak, fight injustice, help your comrades etc.”
“They approached me and asked if they could help after I made a speech in Tokyo describing the Bush regime’s use of race-specific biological weapons. For me it was like a ghost from the history books appearing right in front of me. At first I thought of silly things like having them play 911 truth videos in Chinatowns around the world. However, then I remembered the scene from the movie Kill Bill where Uma Thurman snatches out her opponent’s eye. I soon realized these people could save the world by directly attacking the eye at the top of the pyramid on the one-dollar bill.”
“Think about it, the illuminati and their top servants have a total membership of about 10,000 whereas the Chinese group has over 6 million members. That is 600-to-one odds. Furthermore, the 6 million have the names and addresses of the 10,000 while the 10,000 do not know who or where the 6 million are.”
FULFORD ON THE ILLUMINATI
“Below is a brief a summary of the intelligence I have received from sources including: former Japanese Prime Ministers, senior Yakuza gangsters, senior Japanese Freemasons, Western intelligence agencies etc.
“First the illuminati are really inbred families of European and North American traditional aristocracy and banking families. They control the U.S., England, Europe (except for Scandinavian countries, Germany and Italy; Italy kicked them out in the 1970’s),Japan, Africa, Iran, Canada and Mexico. They do not control China, Russia (Putin kicked them out for the first time since 1917), India, South East Asia, South America, Cuba etc.
“Their goal is to create a world government. Until 2 years ago the plan was the New World Order. That was outlined pretty clearly in the Project for a New American Century. However, with the debacle in Iraq, the secret government of the West changed to a new plan that is a world government based on the EU. To do this they will sabotage the U.S. economy.
“However, there is a big schism in the secret government. Jay Rockefeller and Philip Rothschild support one faction, the Global Warming Faction. Opposing them is the War on Terrorism Faction supported by David Rockefeller and the JP Morgan descendants (Bush, Harriman, Walker etc.). The warming people want to sell 500 nuclear power plants to China and a similar amount to the rest of the world. The terrorism guys want to keep U.S. dominance by maintaining control over oil. Putin was a huge setback for them.
“They are also neo-Nazis who want to reduce the amount of colored people in the world by at least half through disease, starvation and war. The Chinese secret society got wind of this and is preparing to stop them.”
GERMANY ITALY AND SCANDINAVIA NOT ILLUMINATI?
I challenged Fulford on Germany, Italy, Scandinavia and possibly Russia not being controlled by the Illuminati. He replied that “the quality of my intelligence varies”: “I can say with certainty that China, Russia and India are free. When Putin kicked out Nieslev and Bereshovsky and arrested Khordokovsky, he basically kicked the Rockefellers and Rothschilds out of Russia. I have good Russian sources and am confident Putin is a nationalist who is fighting the Illuminati with all his might. When ex-NSA chief Bobby Inman spoke at the Foreign Correspondent’s Club of Japan on June 26th he made it very clear he expected a protracted struggle with Russia.
“India kicked them out in Ghandi’s day and they have never been allowed back. Having liberated themselves after 300 years of Illuminati (East India Company) rule, they do not intend to let themselves fall under their control again.
“There have been many attempts by the Illuminati to infiltrate and dominate China. They financed Chairman Mao but he then kicked them out in the 1960s (that is why China and the USSR nearly went to war then). They are now trying to create a financial crisis in China that would open the way for them to infiltrate the Chinese financial system. They will not succeed. Italy basically purged itself during the big P2 Masonic lodge scandal back in the 80s and re-infiltration has only been partly successful. Germany is part of the NATO alliance and is thus indirectly controlled. There is a powerful branch of the Rothschild family operating there.
“However, Germany does not appear on a top-secret Illuminati power flow chart I have obtained. As far as Iran is concerned, I know they financed Ayatollah Khomeini and Iran appears on the flow chart I have. My understanding is they want to provoke a conflict between Islam and the West so they can consolidate their control over the Muslim and Christian worlds before finishing world conquest by taking over China and India.”
CONCLUSION
Fulford says a meeting is being arranged with Russia’s Vladimir Putin to make sure the KGB also cooperates in this plan to snatch the eye out of the pyramid.
“So far, I have told the Illuminati that they are no longer allowed to murder Japanese politicians. I now plan to extend this protection to all politicians in the West. If the illuminati assassinate or attempt to assassinate Ron Paul, Barak Obama or any politician, may God have mercy on their souls.”

Barak Obama, 4th January 2008
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“Since I am a peace-loving, laid-back Canadian suddenly put in a situation of great responsibility, I feel I must act as a servant of the weakest people and creatures on the planet. I have also been negotiating in secret with the Illuminati in the hopes of arranging for them to cede power without any bloodshed in exchange for a general amnesty.”
“Trust me on this, the illuminati have failed because of their racism. Although other peoples understand that the West is a slave society, those living there do not realize it. The illuminati do not control China, India or now Russia. They are about to lose power. We are like people living in Berlin before the collapse of the Berlin wall. The illuminati are like the Wizard of Oz; once you pull aside the curtain you are surprized by how weak they really are. They rely on illusion. Once the illusion is gone, they are just a bunch of weak old men.”
“I do believe we now have a real chance to end the New World Order and start the New Age. The New Age would be one where war, poverty and environmental destruction would only be found in the history books.”
I applaud Benjamin Fulford’s courage, idealism and defiance. However, he is new to this subject and may have been misled. He shouldn’t use Illuminati terminology like “New Age.” The Illuminati control the central banks of Russia, China, India and Venezuela. They control the EU. Germany may not appear on the Illuminati chart because it is at the top. Barak Obama is a Zionist stooge. The Illuminati Li Ka-Shing (and family) has had a major role in China. Heck, the Communists are Illuminati. I thought the Illuminati controlled organized crime. I can’t imagine a genuinely benevolent secret society. It would be encouraging if this were one.
It’s possible Fulford is sincere but is being used to confuse and/or create divisions. Possibly they want to ramp up domestic terrorism as an excuse for martial law. Now, Orientals as well as Muslims could be on the watch list. This secret society is challenging the traitorous Western Establishment. We’re talking about the State Apparatus! So please be critical. It may or may not be what he says. Time will tell.
In any case, it’s time we refused to bow down to tyranny and called a spade a spade. Imagine, in Japan he writes the truth in the mainstream media! Maybe some day, we’ll do that in America. Benjamin Fulford is an inspiration and deserves our thanks.
-HOUR ONE-
RENSE: I think we're up and running here. A little rocky, the day after the fourth of July, but I think we're connected to Japan.
This is going to be interesting. An awful lot of email has been coming in about the story from Dr. Henry Makow, Ph.D., called "Chinese Secret Society Challenges Illuminati." This is a very interesting story, something the likes of which I have not seen in all the years of doing this program or website.
The author is Benjamin Fulford - the author quoted in the story. He is a North American, Canadian to be specific, expatriate living in Japan now. Let's just bring him on and say hello, see how he's doing and check this connection out. Are you there, Ben?
FULFORD: Yeah, I'm here.
RENSE: OK, we've got a little bit of delay.
FULFORD: It's a cell phone, so the reception is not so good.
RENSE: Well, you sound all right. There's a bit of a delay, so we'll have to deal with that.
A lot of people have been asking me, could this be real? Is this a hoax? Is this a joke? What is it? We're going to find out much more about this story, so stay with us tonight as we continue this conversation with Benjamin Fulford.
He is the former Asia-Pacific bureau chief for Forbes Magazine, and he quit in disgust when Forbes refused to run a damaging story about one of its advertisers. Boy, I know that game, and many of us in the media do - [those] who try to tell as close to the truth as we can without losing our jobs. In this case, Ben did eventually lose his job, because Forbes wouldn't back him. It's a story I've heard before.
He speaks as a very principled man - a reporter, journalist in the best tradition. Let's find out from Ben exactly what happened.
First of all, Ben, when were you named Asian bureau chief for Forbes, and what was your background before that, if you would?
FULFORD: Okay. I've been a journalist in Japan for about 20 years. I was bureau chief for Forbes from 1998 to 2004-2005.
RENSE: That's a good long stretch.
FULFORD: Then I left for a lot of different complications.
RENSE: Your relationship with Forbes, up until the time you decided to part ways with them, was how? You were there with them for almost eight years, I guess.
FULFORD: It started out as a rather cushy job. They let me investigate a lot of stuff about Japanese organized crime and the seedier side of things in Japan. However, at a certain point I seemed to be getting too close to something they didn't want me to get to, and they started stopping stories.
There was a corruption story about GE that didn't make it. Another one about Citibank didn't make it.
Then when I finally found out there was an anti-virus software company who was actually making viruses, that was it.
RENSE: [Laughs] Yeah.
FULFORD: That was the last straw for me.
RENSE: They do that, I've heard. Why not? Once in a while you hear about firemen actually starting fires. I don't know, it's bizarre. That's what software companies that are in the anti-virus protection business are accused of doing from time to time - if not directly, then indirectly. It wouldn't surprise me.
When did you learn to speak Japanese?
FULFORD: Well, I went to university in Japan. I came here when I was 19, and I've been here more than 20 years, so I just got it early on.
RENSE: Did it come easy to you?
FULFORD: Well, it's a very difficult language. Not grammatically, but because you have to grasp a whole new way of thinking. You have to understand that Asian culture and Western culture parted ways about 40,000 years ago.
RENSE: [Laughs]
FULFORD: That means there's 40,000 years of folk wisdom that you have to catch up with to really understand what's going on, and that's very, very difficult.
RENSE: You mean four thousand, instead of forty thousand. There was nobody around back then, supposedly.
FULFORD: What I mean is genetic tests show that's when we separated - Orientals and Caucasians.
RENSE: I got it. Okay. Now with respect to the Asian mind, Western minds - the American mind in particular, we'll just keep it to North America and Canada - are not basically understood.
I predicate that statement on not having been there, not having any experience, but having talked to the former TIME bureau chief for Beijing on the [Rense] program some years ago. He said, when I asked him what the Asian mind thought about American Western diplomacy, in China specifically, he laughed. He said they consider Americans to be but children in a sandbox. That's the gulf we're talking about here.
Now would that remark ring true to you in any way?
FULFORD: Yes, in part. Another way they look at Western society is as a slave society.
RENSE: Slave society?
FULFORD: A slave society.
RENSE: Well, indeed it is. Go ahead.
FULFORD: Controlled in secret by a group of, well, Huckleberry Finn slave drivers.
RENSE: Well, we call them Illuminati, we call them Bilderbergers, CFR, Trilateral Commission. We can throw in Skull and Bones, the Club of Rome, the Fabian Society - all sorts of secret cartels, cabals and groups.
But at the top, it's a fairly singular power source, and it is certainly one of slave-owner to slaves. The encumbering of the slaves is becoming ever more adroit. With each passing month, it seems, the technology and politics are changing so quickly over here.
The view from Japan of North America. Let's talk about the United States. How is it for you, an expatriate from Canada?
FULFORD: Living in Japan, you mean?
RENSE: Yeah. What's it look like over there? What we're doing over here. And I mean 'we' with President Bush, Vice President Cheney, of course enjoying the lowest ratings, probably, in Presidential and Vice Presidential history. The American polls show the respect for the US Congress virtually around 14-15 percent in terms of job satisfaction. So tell me more.
FULFORD: It looks like maybe Russia did just before the Iron Curtain fell. It looks like a huge sea change is about to happen. Like the biggest thing since the Declaration of Independence, I think.
RENSE: Well yes, almost the antithesis of [the Declaration of Independence]. I can see how that would be a view from over there, and it's probably far more loaded with merit than we would like to agree.
Things are happening over here, as I think you well know, at a very rapid pace now. The controllers are literally pushing things in the American public's face that are so unconstitutional and illegal as to be laughable, if they weren't so tragic.
FULFORD: I think these people are scared. They are trying to carry out a plan. They are desperate now. Their plan is so horrendous and so bizarre, it provokes a split - even within their own ranks.
RENSE: I've heard talk of factions. You mentioned the words "they are desperate," the key word being 'desperate.' There are others who have said the same kind of thing - [the controllers] sense there is a window through which they must move, now, if they are ever going to move. Do you agree with that?
FULFORD: Yes. Let me tell you something. I was offered the job of finance minister in Japan by the Freemasons. Okay?
RENSE: When?
FULFORD: I brought [my case against] David Rockefeller. I actually was able to link him to some murders of bankers and other people in Japan, as a part of his effort to take over the Japanese financial system.
When I confronted the former Japanese finance minister, Heizo Takanaka (ph) with this, he sent a ninja, believe it or not - a real live ninja - who offered me a gold Freemason badge. He told me I could either accept a job of great power or be killed.
At first I thought I had no choice, I had to go along, which is what happens to a lot of people when they get pulled into this. But then the Chinese secret society showed up and offered me protection. So that's why I can talk about this.
I want to tell you. I got right inside, right at the very top. Anybody up to a 33rd degree Freemason is a chump. They think they're doing good for humankind and they're doing God's work. There are 13 degrees above the 33rd degree.
RENSE: So I've heard.
FULFORD: The first thing they learn is that there is no God. We are God. This is what they are taught. And they are, believe it or not, the descendants of Babylonian pirates. This goes back almost 6000 years. It's ancient Babylonian slave-driver technology.
They use a combination of bribes, murder, ostracism, mind control, whatever. They have a huge arsenal. They think very, very long term.
The story I've figured out now is that when they started with the Zionism, they had this plan to make a capital in Jerusalem. A lot of the religious Jews thought of this as blasphemy, but they actually did it.
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And then there was a convergence. There was a really radical faction that had this plan to eliminate Christianity. Now this is going to sound so horrendous, believe me...
RENSE: Hold on right there, Ben. Let me ask you to pause. We'll take a break, and come back to that thought. Eliminating Christianity. Very interesting.
Lots already on the table here. My guest is Benjamin Fulford, the former Asia-Pacific bureau chief for Forbes magazine, who has just a stunningly provocative piece up on the site written by Dr. Henry Makow, Ph.D., who interviewed Ben at great length. You'll see it up there on Featured Stories, on the left hand side of my home page.
So by all means, take a look. Right under that, a story written by Benjamin Fulford - the Secret History of the Freemasons in Japan - as well. Be back in a minute.
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RENSE: Okay, back with Benjamin Fulford, live from Tokyo. He, by the way, has published 15 books written in Japanese, with cumulative sales running at over half a million copies. He's got his own weekly two-hour television program over there, appears frequently on numerous other nationally broadcast programs in Japan, and has regular columns in a variety of best-selling Japanese magazines.
My guest, Benjamin Fulford. Lucky to connect with him. At showtime we couldn't get through to his land line, which I had a hunch might be the case. These controversial subjects, one never knows who might be playing phone games. We have him on the line right now.
Go ahead and tell us, then, what this story about abolishing Christianity is about. Is that about the one world, New World Order religion?
FULFORD: Yes. What I first got wind of was a plan to kill Asians - reduce the population of Asians. They told me, once I was invited in, that they had a plan to reduce the population of Asians.
RENSE: Okay, excuse me, Ben, but when you say "They invited you in," who is 'They' and what were you 'in'?
FULFORD: What happened was I interviewed Heizo Takanaka (ph), the former Japanese finance minister.
RENSE: What year was this, approximately?
FULFORD: This year, in fact. I hit a tender spot. I confronted him with having sold the Japanese financial system over to the Rockefellers. Then he sent the ninja, who offered me to join the Freemasons. They offered me the job as finance minister.
RENSE: If I might interject here, please explain what it is. Most Americans and most listening in Canada, or wherever they're listening from around the world, won't understand why or how the Rockefellers are so heavily entrenched and powerful in Japan. In point of fact, the Rockefellers, I guess, own much of Japan, and have since World War Two. So tell us a little bit about that background, if you would.
FULFORD: The Rockefellers, you have to understand their real influence. Everybody outside of America seems to know how powerful they are, but they try to hide this fact from their own people. You have to go back to the very first Rockefeller. You have to go back to 1918. This is what Forbes magazine figured out...
RENSE: John Rockefeller?
FULFORD: Yeah. He was worth about 250 billion in today's money. And the ten richest people controlled about 70 percent of the money supply. This was before they took over the financial system - the Fed.
What they've done is hidden it all through a series of charitable foundations. There's over two hundred, three hundred foundations. They use this to finance universities, to finance research. So they control through money, and they hide it through these foundations.
Comment Timm: Also big manipulation in 1940th years, Rockefeller-Foundation supported Plagiat Constitution-Types from Sheldon (USA) against Original Constitution-Types from Carl Huter (1861-1912)!
If you do a check, you will see David Rockefeller is only worth three billion or so. That's because the rest of it is hidden in these charitable foundations, which they own and control.
RENSE: Okay, name a few of them. Just give us a few.
FULFORD: Well, the Rockefeller foundation, for one. There's a whole bunch. Just look under Google with Rockefeller and Foundation, and you'll see so many. They're always considered the secret rulers of the United States, and much of the world.
They are the hidden patriarchs of this secret government.
RENSE: Okay. How did the Rockefellers, on the planet, stand up to the Rothschilds?
FULFORD: There is an alliance and a split as well. The Rothschilds originally set the Rockefellers up. They helped them monopolize oil. What happened was the Rockefellers got very strong, and became the more dominant partners in the whole enterprise.
Europe is still basically controlled by the Rothschilds. The head of the Rothschild side of the clan is Phillip Rothschild, in London. There is another group that controls France, Belgium and Holland, which is the Grand Lodge of the Orient in France, and is another branch of the Rothschilds.
There was a German branch of the Rothschilds. They have laid low since Hitler was purged.
You have to think of it as royalty. Royal families interbred with old financial families. They interbreed with each other and they keep control that way. The Freemasons are one of the secret societies they use to control European and North American society.
RENSE: Who uses the Freemasons? The Rothschilds or the Rockefellers, or both?
FULFORD: They both do. They also control Mossad and the CIA, as far as I can tell. Most of the people in the CIA think they're working for the United States of America. The reality is they are working for robber barons.
So that's how people look at the United States. They look at it as an enclave controlled by the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers.
RENSE: How did that extend to Japan? By virtue of the victory in World War II?
FULFORD: Yes. It keeps being a Rothschild sphere of influence and became a Rockefeller sphere of influence. You have to understand the Japanese were pretty independent before World War II, but they had close associations with the Rothschilds, who originally financed their modernization.
RENSE: They also pushed the Japanese to engage in the Russo-Japanese war, did they not?
FULFORD: Yes. Absolutely. They armed them for it, and they helped them, and it was a very successful venture. The Japanese had a deep gratitude as a result.
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To this day, they have very friendly feelings.
RENSE: All right. Let's pause on that, and we'll come back and find out about the eradication of Christianity on the planet, and the Masonic influence, being of course employed at the behest of the Rockefellers and / or the Rothschilds. So we'll explore that.
My guest is Benjamin Fulford, who has a dynamite article up there, courtesy of the superb, I call him brilliant writer, Henry Makow, Ph.D., who did a lot of research on this and interviewed Ben at great length. We're very honored to have it. You'll see it up there in Featured Stories. "Chinese Secret Society Challenges Illuminati."
Be right back with Ben Fulford in just a minute.
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RENSE: Okay, back with Benjamin Fulford. Read the article by Dr. Henry Makow, Ph.D., "Chinese Secret Society Challenges Illuminati," and then read the article by Ben Fulford right under that, in the Featured Story box at <http://rense.com/>Rense.com. Click on Ben's name, go to his own website in English. It's his own website, in Japanese, of course, but he's got one for all of us folks as well.
Okay, the plan to eliminate Christianity. Now you mentioned how the Rothschilds and the Zionists set up their Jerusalem and their Middle East.
FULFORD: What they did was they tried to make the Bible prophecy come true, without the intervention of God. In other words, they did it. It wasn't any Divine intervention.
So they are God. They believe themselves to be as powerful as God. [They believe] there is no God; they are the equivalent [of God] on Earth. They are the descendants of Babylonian tyrants.
So one thing I've been hearing, and this was disturbing - when I was invited to join - was that they did plan to reduce the world's population by seven billion people.
RENSE: This goes back to Global 2000. One more word about this severely atheistic organization, which is using organized religion to hide behind, as they always have. It's not a big surprise. And of course, that leads to all kinds of difficulties, shall we say. But it's an interesting thing to know.
Okay. You were invited to join the organization. A Rockefeller ninja was sent to make you an offer you could not refuse. But you decided not to accept.
FULFORD: Yes.
RENSE: How did you decide not to accept? We have plenty of time. So you get the offer, and what happened?
FULFORD: The next day I get contacted by a gentleman who says he represents a Chinese secret society.
RENSE: The very next day.
FULFORD: The very next day.
RENSE: And how did that person know to contact you the very next day? How did you determine later on that he or she might have known that?
FULFORD: I don't know. They keep their secrets quite well. I assume they have a mole very high up in the organization. You have to understand that the Chinese secret society also has deep roots in Japan. Maybe I should give you a brief history of these people.
I recognized them from the history books. So when they approached me, I already had some knowledge about them.
RENSE: May I ask another question? How did they approach you? Did they call you and say, "Ben, we'd like to talk to you," or did they just come knocking at your door? What happened?
FULFORD: I got a phone call from a gentleman who said he'd like to meet me and talk about something important.
RENSE: Was he speaking English or Japanese?
FULFORD: Japanese.
RENSE: All right. So let's go back and do a little history on this organization now.
FULFORD: Okay. The Ming dynasty was the high point in Chinese history. This was when their civilization reached a peak. They were invaded by some very uncouth barbarians known as the Manchus. When this happened, the Ming army - they were betrayed by a border general - became an underground organization, a secret society.
So there are two branches. The old Ming army and the old Ming navy. These are their descendants.
They wanted to over throw the Qing [formed by the Manchus] and restore the Ming. Their first big attempt was what we know of as the Boxer Rebellion. Then later they got huge help from the Japanese royal family, from the Meiji.
RENSE: That's M-E-I-J-I, correct?
FULFORD: Yeah. These are the people who modernized Japan. So we're talking about the beginning of the 1900s.
RENSE: So the Meiji family modernized Japan at the beginning of the 1900s. All right.
FULFORD: Yeah. It was a bunch of Freemasons set up by the Rothschilds.
RENSE: That's how the Rothschilds first got involved with Japan and China. I understand.
FULFORD: Right. Unknown to the Rothschilds - or maybe they knew at the time, I don't know - the Japanese helped this Chinese secret society overthrow the Ming dynasty. They also got help from Chinatowns all over the world, which is where they have their bases. This is how Sun Yat-Sen overthrew the last emperor.
RENSE: So you're saying, in a way, Sun Yat-Sen was a tool of the Masons, who were a tool of the Rothschilds.
FULFORD: Well, in appearances it is like that. The Asians don't particularly want to be ruled by white people, so it doesn't really work in fact all around. They'll take their money, but they're not going to do everything they're told.
RENSE: That was the political mechanism, in so many words. That's how Sun Yat-Sen assumed power. Okay.
FULFORD: He was later ousted. As you know, the Japanese invaded China, and they were trying to take it over. It was a huge battle over the future of the planet, which evolved into World War II. They were fighting a proxy war in China for over a decade before World War II started.
RENSE: Very few Americans understand that.
FULFORD: The secret society ended up fighting the communist Chinese, being defeated and going underground.
RENSE: So they were a part of Chiang Kai-Shek's apparatus. They were supporting him, allies?
FULFORD: Well, they were allied with him, as I said, but not part of his apparatus.
RENSE: Okay, so they were fighting with him, supporting him, and he lost. Okay. Mao Zedong?
FULFORD: ...was financed by the Soviet Union, by the Rothschilds on that side of the equation. Then they kicked out the connection in the 1960s, and China became independent from Rothschild and Freemason control.
RENSE: Was that a big shock to the Rothschilds at the time, or did they see it coming?
FULFORD: No! It was a big shock. There was all this talk about "who lost China?" This was a major blow for them. But they never really controlled China. Like I said, the Chinese were on to them, and onto their game. They weren't going to be fooled.
RENSE: How did the British East India Company and the opium wars play into this in the 18th and 19th centuries?
FULFORD: The story there is the British - while everyone else was buying lots of tea and had nothing to pay for it with - invaded China, unfortunately to buy opium, so they could have their tea. That was a war of invasion. But they couldn't control China. It was just too big for them to manage. So instead they just threatened them and kept them as a vassal state, in that sense.
RENSE: They had enough trouble with the United States before, and it was known as the colonies, but yes - trying to control China, I can see, would be virtually [impossible].
FULFORD: It's worth noting that the Skull and Bones were opium and slave traders. So they were deeply involved in all this.
RENSE: A lot of Zionists were in the slave trade too. A tremendous Zionist / Jewish participation in that filthy business.
FULFORD: Sure. There is still trading going on to this day.
RENSE: Well, that's called white slavery. I don't know how many tens of thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of women and children are sold into slavery through various conduits that often run into Israel every year.
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FULFORD: Sure.
RENSE: All right, Benjamin, we'll come right back in our conversation with Benjamin Fulford. Do visit his website, and do visit <http://rense.com/>Rense.com. Look for his article about the Freemasons and their history as well. It's in the fifth featured story down - "The Secret History of the Freemasons in Japan." Be right back.
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RENSE: Okay. Back with Benjamin Fulford. We're going to pursue the issue of Christianity and its future, or lack thereof, in a few minutes. We're doing a little background now on the Chinese secret society, which actually came to the rescue, as it were. Ben would either be filthy rich now, or dead.
FULFORD: [Laughs]
RENSE: [Laughs] Go ahead.
FULFORD: Just to divert a bit, it is what is known in folklore as making a deal with the Devil, right? They offer you, I would have been finance minister and I would have earned billions of dollars - looting the Japanese to finance genocide.
RENSE: Which goes back to our earlier comment about reducing the world population, which we're going to get to. We have a lot of time tonight. That, of course, goes back to the actual printed projection of reducing the world population called Global 2000, by 75 or 80 percent. But we'll get back to that in a few minutes. Go ahead.
FULFORD: When I left the Chinese, at first I didn't know what to make of it.
RENSE: How was your meeting with them, Ben? Did they come to your place and sit down and talk to you?
FULFORD: No, no. In a hotel room.
RENSE: Was it one person or two?
FULFORD: Two people.
RENSE: Male or female?
FULFORD: Male.
RENSE: Dressed?
FULFORD: Dressed in pretty ordinary, not very expensive-looking clothing.
RENSE: Okay. They sat you down. You had never heard about this secret society before, correct?
FULFORD: Oh, I had, I had!
RENSE: But not in terms of it being active to the extent that it might pop up in your life. You'd heard about it in the past.
FULFORD: I've studied Chinese history. I read about them in the history books as the Green and the Red Gang, who fought the communists in Shanghai, in 1949.
RENSE: That was my point. Go ahead, please.

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